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What paddles would be best suited for a stock kfx450r and a ridder thats about 230lbs? Also what the lug pattern, cause no one is listing it yet on their rim charts.
 

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What paddles would be best suited for a stock kfx450r and a ridder thats about 230lbs? Also what the lug pattern, cause no one is listing it yet on their rim charts.[/b]
The bolt pattern is the standard Kawi/Suzuki/Honda pattern. I bought my ITP wheels with sandstars from a Suzuki/Honda dealer I just called and asked them for a set for a 06 Z400 picked them up and they bolted right on. So that should cover the bolt pattern.

As for what type of paddles there are a lot of variants there and probably someone on here more experienced then me in that field. As for me I weigh about 190 and I like the sandstars my buddy who is about 220 also has them on his 700 Raptor and he likes them. However we ride at Little Sahara, Waynoka, OK and do more trail riding then dragging so the v paddles are nice in the turns. I here for drag racing you want straight paddles like I have on the back of my old 350X 3 wheeler and I like them. I hear the Skat Trak Haulers are good. Even in this category there are different paddle counts. Here at Waynoka the climbs are not long so the paddle count isn't as big of an issue. However I hear out at Glamis and other big places they can make a drastic difference. For paddles talk to others that ride in the area you plan on riding and see what they use and what they think.

Hope that helps a bit and I am sure others will put in their thoughts as well.
 

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We just had this discussion on my board. Skat Trac Haulers are top of the line with a price tag to match. I got 8 paddle 20-11-9 Haulers on backorder. Haulers are said to respond better than molded tires. My dune friends insisted I get them.
 

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Thanks guys for the response. I was considering the skat Trac haulers as well but I was kind of worried that they wouldnt turn very well, and all my friends have 400's so I dont plan on hard core drag racing or anything.
 

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Thanks guys for the response. I was considering the skat Trac haulers as well but I was kind of worried that they wouldnt turn very well, and all my friends have 400's so I dont plan on hard core drag racing or anything.[/b]
The biggest misconception about Hauler paddles is that they don't turn or handle very well and that "V" paddle tires turn better. That really isn't the case. If you haven't tried a "V" shaped paddle and then a straight Hauler tire then you really need to as a Hauler tire slides a lot easier than a "V" paddle which makes turning a little easier if you know what your doing. And just don't take my word for it, read some reviews like the one at http://www.atvmagonline.com/output.cfm?id=34183. Haulers (and all Skat Trak tires for that matter) also weigh less than any other tire including the ITP's which equals more power to the ground! And pass on the ITP wheels and go with Doulgas if you want to save even more weight and get more power to the ground as ITP's are power robbing heavy!
 

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This debate must be an annual spring time event. Bottom line is whatever you get is what you will be happy with (so long as you don't get geckos). This same exact thread with different people is going on in a local thread i subscribe to. Same things are being said by different people. It's the whole Chevy vs.Ford vs. Dodge thing in imo. Personally I prefer offset V tread, but i don't do any drag racing so i've had no need to try haulers. If i had the extra money i would own a set too just to try em out. I currently run sand sharks. I'm sure sand stars are better, but sharks suit my riding just fine and they are cheap. As for whether sand stars are better than haulers?, if you're gonna drag race or hill climb and want to be one of the cool guys, get haulers. ;)
 

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I just ordered 21x12x8 6 paddle skat~trak extremes on 8x9 wheels. They said the haulers are good for drag racing but the extremes are an all around better sand tire. It has a taller paddle so you can run less paddles and still get good hook-up.
 

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I do alot of dune riding, have run a lot of different tires as well. I would recomend skat trak extreme hualers for your rears. I also would recommend a 10 inch wheel. Reason being if your in soft sand and rutted areas especially hill climbs sand gets into the rear spocket and chain and can sometimes feel like its skipping the sprocket. I just ordered a set of 10 in itp c-series wheels withe 9 paddle extremes in the rear and 21-7-10 double fin sand stars in front. Ill shoot some pics tomarrow. The extremes are worth the money also, i tore off many paddle on regular hualers on my banshee. The extremes last longer.
 

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Ok well I didnt get my extremes, problem with the order they didnt get them out in time and couldnt get the rims powdercoated before my trip. So instead I got some skat trak haulers 22x11x10 7 paddles on 8" wide wheels. They came out awesome! With skat trak you never know exactally how they will roll out, but they came out good, really flat paddles. I started with 4 pounds and my buddies said it sounded like they were hitting a little wierd, so i put them up to 5 pounds and it rounded them out just a little. they hooked up really good and werent that difficult to slide around.
 

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i currently have sand stars on the predaturd and i think they hook up too much. it seems like it kills the top end. on some ltr forums i found that two buddy's drag racing with identical ability /bikes / mods the bike with haulers was almost three bikes in front of the same with sand stars. that might be exagerated or have other factors but still. also you cant really turn if you heavy on the throttle because it lifts the front off when you aren't trying to just enough inhibit steering. and they just don't want to spin the want to bite and go straight so you cant really side hill or do donuts at all. but all this makes any type of wheelies easy money. if you compare paddle sizes the sand stars paddles are almost twice the size as v paddles like in the skat trak edge. i might try cutting out the little half paddle thats in between the main ones to loosen things up a bit before i spend some money on new paddles.

i was curious if anybody is running the skat trak edges, and with how many paddles?
 

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I use to have haulers and v paddles on my 250 r , The haulers would definitly bite better but were a lot harder to turn under hard exeleration. I rode with the sand skate 2 v paddles 90% of the time becouse we liked to rip the dunes fast and everywhere at Glamis. The sand drags just get old after an hour or so, and hitting the dunes for an hour or so with a couple of your buddies hard never gets old, at least for me. I now have Sand stars with 9 inch rims and like them for all around sand.
 
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