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Timing advance/ignition gains

Have any of you guys seen any gains on a Dyno from timing advance in the low-mid range.

I haven’t run my procom in a while but have been making a few maps lately and was curious if the timing advance offered gains.

I do remember my bike seemed to launch harder when I had the procom on.

What’s your experience??

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Cars with variable valve timing are using ignition advance to increase torque in the bottom end rpm....its "variable valve" because its only the intake that advances, the exhaust advance would increase fuel consumption. So there is a benefit if the tune is correct. It depends on your fuel octane...maximum combustion needs to occur at 12 to 15 degrees after top dead center for maximum power to occur...the higher the octane the slower it burns and the more advance is needed because it takes longer to burn and gives the piston a harder push and a longer push...

Ive been playing with this for over a week...i am using a pcv with autotune and 93 gas ...i am currently 5degrees advance at the lower end and taper off by 10% throttle and 3000rpm roughly. It allows my bottom end rev to accel very quickly...

I also just got a pod-300 so i can data log...i will know the full effect of advancement in the next couple of days.

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Awesome, curious to see your results.

This is a copy of map 9 from the procom. The timing advance is shown.

It has a total of 3 degrees in the lower rpm range.
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What are the rpm increments on the top? x100, or x1000?

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X1000

I see your making your on a arms. That’s awesome. I wish I new how to lol I want more width

Been running a 3 button controller for awhile and want to give the procom another chance.

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Yeah i cant wait to get the a arms finished. I have been practicing for a tig test i have coming up so i had to put them on the back burner for a min but i am going to blueprint them and if all goes well i may start fabricating them for other ppl at a much cheaper price than everyone charges!

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By the way i have received the pod-300 and i can data log but now i dont have a computer to see the data logs...mines too old....i will definitely continue down this road as soon as i can make time....
These welding tests are for my job so the practice comes first!

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Good luck on the test.

Ya I need to get some wider a arms. If they turn out good maybe I’ll buy a set

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I’ve got my procom map setup and ready to load.

Going to run it with stock fuel map and just timing added. I’m pleased with the fuel settings from my wiseco programmer.

Just added timing so we will see how it runs

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Please post your results i cant wait to see what happens!
I can honestly say that the most power you can get is not the best for your engine though. Thats why a dyno is the best way to do it but most of us dont have that advantage. As im dialing mine in on a safe long term tune i am less impressed as i go...lol
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