Sand in my intake!

This is a discussion on Sand in my intake! within the Engine/EFI/Drivetrain forums, part of the KFX450 Performance category; I've never had a single issue w/K&N style filters passing ANYTHING. I don't know how adequately you guys are oiling your filters, but it must ...


Go Back   Kawasaki KFX450 Forum :: KFX450HQ.com > KFX450 Performance > Engine/EFI/Drivetrain

Engine/EFI/Drivetrain Discuss engine, fuel injection, air intake, and drivetrain modifications here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 10:41 AM
nkeen07's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,233
View nkeen07's Photo Gallery(0)
I've never had a single issue w/K&N style filters passing ANYTHING. I don't know how adequately you guys are oiling your filters, but it must not be good enough. I do a coat inside and out, let it dry, then go back and do another. If you're getting actual particles up in your intake there are other issues...most likely a leak around the tube somewhere. When you say you're running a K&N, did you get the adapter plate or are you just using a stock replacement? If it's just a replacement, w/o the adapter ring, you'll never get a good seal. To me, the price of getting the adapter kit is well worth it.
__________________
2011 Build underway. Current Sponsors: ARS-FX / Exit, Lonestar Racing, MotoSport.com, MotoXperts, WKC Powersports, X-Factor Motorsports, Scott, HMF, Spider Graphix, Leatt


Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
KFX450HQ.com is the premier Kawasaki KFX Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not these ads. Please Register - It's Free!    
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 11:03 AM
bdr450r's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 381
View bdr450r's Photo Gallery(0)
Had the same prob with the STOCK foam filter which was properly oiled and sealed. Intake was red with dirt and gritty with fine sand particles. Switched to the FCI with that K&N style filter and haven't seen anything get passed it yet.
__________________
'08 KFX 450, FCI Intake, PCIII, HIDs, Stage 2 Hot Cams
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 05:16 PM
Duster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,013
View Duster's Photo Gallery(0)
Quote: Originally Posted by Slaytanic454 View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by thomasdjames1 View Post
K&N will pass sand and dirt. Use a foam filter. I have used many K&N filters and they flow great but they will NOT filter as good as a foam filter.
Quote: Originally Posted by nkeen07 View Post
I've never had a single issue w/K&N style filters passing ANYTHING. I don't know how adequately you guys are oiling your filters, but it must not be good enough. I do a coat inside and out, let it dry, then go back and do another. If you're getting actual particles up in your intake there are other issues...most likely a leak around the tube somewhere. When you say you're running a K&N, did you get the adapter plate or are you just using a stock replacement? If it's just a replacement, w/o the adapter ring, you'll never get a good seal. To me, the price of getting the adapter kit is well worth it.

It's not about doing anything wrong. For example, when I had my 400EX modded, they went K&N. That filter has a metal flange that slides in the rubber boot, and a hose clamp seals it off on the 400EX. Complete seal. Good design.

The problem is the K&N filter media itself... and also maybe the lack of plys?


What happens is that the K&N filter media itself develops large holes.
An it has no depth to compensate for that to get by with it like UNI gets by with it.

I'll see if I can capture it in an image later.
__________________
CIRCUS RUNAWAYS RACING #450R_
Procom ECU
'08 KX Cams
Custom Intake
Jardine RT99 Exhaust
Moose Racing Handguards
ProArmor Tether & Install Kit
ProArmor PowerGRIP System
ProArmor full skid protection
Pro(blem)Armor Dominator Bumper
Walsh lower stem bearing
Derisi Racing Suspension
CCP Steering Stabilizer
Maxxis Razr & Razr2


2011 Sponsors: Circus Runaways Racing, Dust Devil, ForceFed, James Racing, Attack Graphics, Custom CNC Parts, Procom, Jardine, Wicked Thunder, Keepitroostin.com

Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 07:02 PM
Garrett's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 205
View Garrett's Photo Gallery(0)
Quote: Originally Posted by Slaytanic454 View Post
If you're running a properly oiled K&N and a outerwears filter, there's absolutely no reason for shit to be getting past it. (The FCI filter is the same style of filter as a K&N, and no better. K&N didn't make as big of a name for themselves as they did by producing crap) Check your intake connections, something might have come loose. Or oil the fucker, sometimes they don't come adequately oiled from wherever you buy them.

sorry sir but your very wrong. I can send you link if you like on how our filters are tested. they will filtrate as good if not better than a foam filter and still have the flow of a K&N. Our intake is a 8ply intake K&N are 4 ply.You will not see sand on the inside of your tube with our filter. i will take white glove challenge. AZkfx450rider, ride it for weekend and check your intake for us. i will pm u a hook up for yeah if you do it.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 07:10 PM
Duster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,013
View Duster's Photo Gallery(0)
OK, it took a great amount of trial and error on my part to capture this with the camera feature of my camcorder...

I hope you guys can see this and appreciate what I am saying about the K&N media.

Holes develop that can pass large particles... you can see them here... they are the very bright spots.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg PIC_0179.jpg (32.9 KB, 14 views)
__________________
CIRCUS RUNAWAYS RACING #450R_
Procom ECU
'08 KX Cams
Custom Intake
Jardine RT99 Exhaust
Moose Racing Handguards
ProArmor Tether & Install Kit
ProArmor PowerGRIP System
ProArmor full skid protection
Pro(blem)Armor Dominator Bumper
Walsh lower stem bearing
Derisi Racing Suspension
CCP Steering Stabilizer
Maxxis Razr & Razr2


2011 Sponsors: Circus Runaways Racing, Dust Devil, ForceFed, James Racing, Attack Graphics, Custom CNC Parts, Procom, Jardine, Wicked Thunder, Keepitroostin.com

Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2010, 08:23 PM
fastjunkie131's Avatar
Premium Member
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ocala, florida
Posts: 602
View fastjunkie131's Photo Gallery(0)
use a outerwears!
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Kawasaki KFX450 Forum :: KFX450HQ.com > KFX450 Performance > Engine/EFI/Drivetrain


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Search tags for this page

k&n sand intake

,

kx sucked in sand, what now?

,

kx sucked sand in

,

sand getting past atv air filter

,

sand in my kfx450 intake

,

sand in the air intake past filter

,

sand in the intake

,

sand n dirt motorsports

,

sand sucked intake

Click on a term to search our sites for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air box in the Sand BullCatcher Dune Riding 16 10-14-2011 04:43 AM
gbc sand paddles 6789olds Dune Riding 0 02-11-2010 02:17 AM
Little Sahara, Sand Mtn UT kawasaki Dune Riding 1 10-29-2009 01:36 AM
sand paddles william88 Wheels/Tires 20 07-24-2009 05:36 PM
sand gearing help reballz Dune Riding 4 08-03-2008 04:15 AM


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.